View Full Version : '·кάя|·' in The 9th Infantry Hidden Source #1 ~1 AM, July 4th

5th July 2006, 05:51
·кάя|· killed [-DER-]Gabbo | Teke It Issy with pistol.
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hostname: The 9th Infantry Hidden Source #1 Weighted=On PS=On Random=Off
version : 2596 secure
udp/ip :
map : hdn_derelict at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
players : 9 (9 max)

# userid name uniqueid connected ping loss state
# 21 "[-DER-]Gabbo | Teke It Issy" STEAM_0:0:4777775 15:30 115 0 active
# 22 "Jack Carnival" STEAM_0:0:9840245 12:55 142 0 active
# 25 "{9thInf}RctSenator Ozmo*B*" STEAM_0:1:5990977 04:34 155 0 active
# 13 "FreeStuffEasy.net" STEAM_0:1:3548638 1:09:06 110 0 active
# 17 "Old Pirate" STEAM_0:0:7749553 56:04 175 0 active
# 23 "Mr. Fetus" STEAM_0:0:9880056 12:02 141 0 active
# 14 "deltro" STEAM_0:1:4871891 1:06:42 101 0 active
# 15 "·кάя|·" STEAM_0:1:9013566 59:58 142 0 active
# 24 "conker" STEAM_0:1:9877853 09:24 163 2 active

he was hacking with some sort of 'hidden-seeing' thing, black skin I believe.

5th July 2006, 07:20
If you don't have a demo this isn't going to result in anything. Just a heads up.

5th July 2006, 15:18
Sigh:( , I was on a server (Primefarms PS=OFF Classic I think) with this guy for a while earlier last night......I managed to establish that he has an older graphics card (he doesn't know which) and is getting the white outlined hidden and (he claims) "didn't know it wasn't meant to look like that".

He definitely knows now tho.

The map changed and he left before I could send him here to find out how to fix it.

I guess he decided to go on playing anyway:rolleyes:

If I see him again I'll get a demo.

6th July 2006, 18:25
Do you see a white outline hidden? (if you do, it doesn't imply you're hacking).

6th July 2006, 19:59
Does your hidden look like this?

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3969/hdnhighrise00018bo5ln.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdnhighrise00018bo5ln.jpg)

7th July 2006, 01:27
I'd have to imagine he's actually fairly good. I only play a few hours a week and I know I can track a hidden like its noones business and he has already put in 34 hours this week.

Can I formerly request that all people who disable their ambient/backgroud sounds be considered hackers and banned. Cause that to me is worse than the white outline dx7 users had.

7th July 2006, 03:57
It wasn't tracking though, it was dead on shooting- on more than one occasion- where I was above him, and pouncing. It wasn't a 'OOH Saw you on the ground, fire again!' thing, like I see even good players do, it was 'Follow you while you are in the air.'

Not only that, but he admitted to cheating- I thought I'd copied it in the 'status'

7th July 2006, 09:12
Well heres some demos...hes using the name "Mingebag" in these, steamID screenie:259.


In karl2 I'm following him as IRIS. Notice how he INSTANTLY spots the hidden in the corner (completely invisible to me), says "oh, whos this" on the voip or something like that...walks over to him, jumps on his head, then turns and shoots.

Karl4 is from his POV cam. If you watch this in wireframe you will see that despite most of his fire missing, his hidden tracking is remarkably good, especially considering he had a ping of around 300 at this time. Again he seems to spot the hidden as soon as he enters the box room, but doesn't fire.

Karl5 and Karl8 are with me as hidden....granted these are rather less suspicious than the other two, but I still think his tracking looks remarkably good (especially considering his lack of skill AS hidden). Although Pitch Black makes the final kill in both of these, Karl/Mingebag does most of the damge, as the console will show.

I suggest you press shift-F2 and fast forward through most of karl5, as hes only in the same room as me at the beginning and near the end.

Still say you see the hidden normally Karl?

I am NOT trying to say you are hacking, merely that you have a hardware/driver incompatibilty with the hidden shader that makes him easier to see than he should be. However I do think that you are now intentionaly exploiting this.

Hopefully there will be much less of this sort of thing when B5 gets here and DX6/7 support goes:)

7th July 2006, 20:03
How do you watch the demos?

7th July 2006, 20:16
Download them, put them in your hidden directory and then type playdemo [demoname] in the console.

7th July 2006, 21:04
How do you watch the demos?
save them in the hidden souce directory and in console type play demoname