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siervua
8th June 2009, 21:05
Ok Here we go.

Welcome to the first Wenchy's Mapping Contest

If you are stating an intent on entering in this contest please post a reply to this message.

CONTEST INFORMATION:
Begins: Wednesday June 10th
Ends: Friday July 10th
Theme: Anything you want
Prize: $20.00 worth of games from Steam or any online game you choose. (Must be purchaseable through Paypal)

Rules:

The map entered can not be a public map.
The map must be playable by July 10th for voting.
The map must be of your own work.
The map must follow the theme if there is any.


July 11th will be a voting stage where the maps will be placed on a server and players are eligible to vote for their favorites.
July 12th A winner will be declared.

Have fun!

Dark Soul
9th June 2009, 05:04
Not to be complaining about free stuff, but does it have to be a steam game ?

I would rather get a preorder (http://www.naturalselection2.com/buy) for NS2.:p

siervua
9th June 2009, 16:33
I would rather get a preorder (http://www.naturalselection2.com/buy) for NS2.:p

Sure we can do that. Edited first post to reflect the change in prizes from Steam Games to a choice between steam games or an online game of your choice.

Zabiela
9th June 2009, 23:41
Aye, I dont guarantee i'll have something, but i'll try.

Darkhand
10th June 2009, 00:33
Same here... I'm going to try and find time to give this a shot because I think it's such a good idea, but no promises that I'll be able to get a submission in! :o

Onikage
10th June 2009, 20:15
I might try to make something.
Is finishing allmost ready maps fine? I haven't fully completed my hdn_waterpark. :D
I have also couple of non-released maps so I think that I could make one of those ready. I don't know if I have time to make a new map.

siervua
10th June 2009, 20:22
Waterpark is not eligible, since even though it may not be finished it's been played on public servers (I remember it somewhere lol) Other maps that haven't been released are fine. As long as it's not published anywhere.

Zabiela
10th June 2009, 22:15
Sketchup vmf exporter seems to be working well. Anyone else tried sketchup yet?

Darkhand
10th June 2009, 22:18
I saw the Sketchup demo when it was new and thought it was awesome... When I saw screenshots of the L4D SDK using it I freaked out.

Zabiela
10th June 2009, 22:53
When I saw screenshots of the L4D SDK using it I freaked out.

Where are those? Im just using it for the brushwork for some of the more complicated structures in my map.
The materials and entities look too annoying to be done in SKUP.

The only annoying thing is everytime you make a shape you have to group it/component it.

If anyone wants to use it a good fyi is 1"skup = 1 hammer unit. You cant model with real-world dimensions, because 1 hammer unit isnt really as long as an inch. Im just doing brushwork in multiples of 2/8/16/.../128.

Darkhand
11th June 2009, 18:24
Where are those? Im just using it for the brushwork for some of the more complicated structures in my map.

Can't remember where I saw the original ones, but some Googling found similar ones at Halflife2.net (http://www.halflife2.net/2009/05/15/left-4-dead-authoring-tools-now-available/):

http://www.halflife2.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/l4d1.jpg

Zabiela
11th June 2009, 22:47
Thats the example map. It can be found in the SKU plugin folder that you get with the L4D auth tools, if you're curious.

They didnt use multiples of 128 in that map, which is retarded. Their textures dont fit well. :/

Ging
11th June 2009, 23:21
I spent about an hour fucking about with SketchUp last night, having never really used it properly before I worked through the "at your own pace" tutorials that you can grab from the google site.

It's actually pretty incredible how quick and easy it is to throw together some decent architecture!

Sniper
12th June 2009, 01:12
A pic from my work, we were replacing pallets all day.

I'm starting to get an idea for a map:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4871/sspx0096.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/sspx0096.jpg/)

:D

Genre
12th June 2009, 01:40
Sniper, I love that idea ;)

Darkhand
12th June 2009, 03:56
Oh. Oh God. :eek:

Zabiela
12th June 2009, 05:26
LOL. That would be the end of everything

siervua
12th June 2009, 18:34
bah I can already see which map the physers are gonna vote for :P

[TSAT]Flow
12th June 2009, 18:56
Do... want...

Darkhand
12th June 2009, 22:02
Is the contest server Windows or Linux? I've had a hankerin' to use HDR but even my own server is Windows. :(

siervua
12th June 2009, 22:31
Server is Windows =)

Genre
12th June 2009, 23:52
Sniper you should make that map ovr_ and play with me and the euros :p

Paegus
13th June 2009, 14:24
Is the contest server Windows or Linux? I've had a hankerin' to use HDR but even my own server is Windows. :(

HDR isn't fully implemented in Beta 4 as it's just an extension of the release that was based on the original HL2 SDK. So you'll have issues beyond the nature of the server itself.

siervua
23rd June 2009, 05:35
Little over two weeks left! how's everyone doing?

Dark Soul
23rd June 2009, 12:07
Well classes finally ended for me so I've started work on my map. Hopefully I can finish it before the dead line.

Zabiela
24th June 2009, 01:23
Little over two weeks left! how's everyone doing?

I retire :p

Too much partying, and next week I go on vacation.

Paegus
24th June 2009, 07:45
yeah.. best time to start a mapping contest: end of the scholastic year.

Onikage
24th June 2009, 15:09
Little over two weeks left! how's everyone doing?

I am doing just fine thanks for asking. I'll post here now plenty of pretty pics so you can get good overall feeling of the map (minus ambience sounds). Any feedback is appreciated because I want to make this map as good as I can. At the moment I am not 100% happy with it and I dunno how the gameplay works in a full server.

Layout (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/323/hdnkindergartenlayout.jpg) 1 (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg) 2 (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8696/hdnkindergardenplaytesty.jpg) 3 (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg) 4 (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1994/hdnkindergardenplaytestx.jpg) 5 (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg) 6 (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3013/hdnkindergardenplaytestl.jpg) 7 (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg) 8 (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/550/hdnkindergardenplaytestz.jpg) 9 (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg)
10 (http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8828/hdnkindergardenplaytest.jpg) 11 (http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8702/hdnkindergardenplaytestq.jpg)

vlees91
24th June 2009, 16:05
I don't want to send my kids there!

Digit*
24th June 2009, 17:04
I don't want to send my kids there!

I don't want you to have ANY kids AT ALL!

You're a persistant little bugger aren't you? You do realise you are the laughing stock of Hidden:Source right? With the whole "you got caught hacking yet you're still trying to be all social and witty here on these forums..."

Face it dude...you are our little Duke Nukem Forever joke! We see your name and we laugh, we read what you say and we laugh, you make another attempt at socialising even though we all dislike your presence in general and we LAUGH!

Now...kind as i am, i will give you a few tips on how to GTFO forever.
First: Name change! Drop the name Vlees in anything you ever used it for, change all account names you have and stop using the name vlees permanently!
Second: Stop associating with the hidden:source community. We all dislike you...so you won't find friends here.
Third: ???
Fourth: Suicide
Fifth: Profit!

:)

Zabiela
24th June 2009, 22:50
Nice detailing on that map Onikage. Those destroyed walls look really nice.

My only suggestion is more architectural details, some of the rooms are really square. Try fake closets/doors, built-in countertops or seating, encased columns...


I don't want you to have ANY kids AT ALL!
*and rest of post*

Second.

Dark Soul
4th July 2009, 03:58
Six days left, time to start showing some screen shots.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5206/hdneminence30002.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8339/hdneminence30004copy.jpg

Specht
4th July 2009, 07:59
Nice! Can't wait to play on it!

[TSAT]Flow
4th July 2009, 13:31
This looks fucking EPIC! :eek:

siervua
4th July 2009, 19:21
Hello! Glad to see that the maps are coming along. Can we get a final tally of people intending to be in the contest (maps semi finished etc etc etc) There are 6 days left in the contest and am preparing for the judging process.

Also I need a few volunteers to help me with the judging.

TheOtherDante
4th July 2009, 20:33
*puts on his bowler hat and monocle*

wood gladly help ya judge tis here, contest

-SM-SUCKER
5th July 2009, 22:30
Those maps look promising!

Paegus
6th July 2009, 08:18
Six days left, time to start showing some screen shots.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5206/hdneminence30002.jpg

how close to the ground is that trigger hurt :)

Dark Soul
6th July 2009, 09:54
This close:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3087/thisd.jpg

Thinking of sticking pipes by the ground for the hidden to catch himself on.The one thing thats stopping me from doing it, is i don't want people looking at the undetailed ground

Paegus
6th July 2009, 11:24
well i figured it was a take off from highrise. a nice low trigger hurt though feels nicer since it gives the hidden more of a change to recover (or at least the false hope to recover) and doesn't feel as fake when you suddenly explode mid-air :)

Darkhand
6th July 2009, 21:20
Is it bad that I'm still at the 'drawing on a napkin' stage? :eek:

Sniper
7th July 2009, 04:04
Is it bad that I'm still at the 'drawing on a napkin' stage? :eek:

You're screwed! :p

I think I'm sticking with my "I won't map until B5 is out" thought. ;)

siervua
7th July 2009, 04:42
Here's some last minute ideas

1) A toy store with a pile of jimmehs......

2) A teenage bedroom. (Heck have you seen some of them. I've seen people go into a small 10X10 and never return)

3) a toy store with a pile of jimmehs..... (can you tell this is my favorite?)

TheOtherDante
7th July 2009, 14:38
2) A teenage bedroom. (Heck have you seen some of them. I've seen people go into a small 10X10 and never return)


Was it a boy and girl...

that still happen now, if i go in my room and im not out in 20 mins, well you can forget about seeing me anytime later that night.

siervua
9th July 2009, 13:41
So tomorrow's the last day. Who's still in? Who's out? Who completely forgot about the contest? :P

If you are still in, please let me know where I can download the map to place on the server for voting =D

Wenchy

Onikage
9th July 2009, 14:14
I am compiling my map at the moment and I'll post a download link later today. I have been a very busy but I found some time to tweak the map's layout (in one playtesting session I found out that map's layout didn't encourage enought players to move from the spawn).

I will be drafted to the military service 13th day and will be there about 9 months (military training in defence forces is compulsary here in Finland) so I will be offline a lot more and contacting me might take a while. I'll try to find some time to come playtest contest maps. I am really looking foward to play eminence - it looks great! And I hope that it sounds and plays too. :p

salith
9th July 2009, 15:03
I think I'm sticking with my "I won't map until B5 is out" thought. ;)

I'm thinking this myself :)

siervua
9th July 2009, 17:30
I'm thinking this myself :)

To which I say to Sniper and Salith:

Wimps!!!!!

Onikage
9th July 2009, 18:57
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/26/hdnkindergarten0000.jpg

DOWNLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TU5C0YU9)

e.X.S | мя.حغغ
9th July 2009, 21:07
yeahhh cool :D HND_KINDERGARTEN thats fresh and funky :D

Paegus
10th July 2009, 09:11
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/26/hdnkindergarten0000.jpg

DOWNLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TU5C0YU9)

From my brief excursion through the map i have to say i like it a lot and will put it up on CCake if/when permitted.

on the critique side:
-Overall squareness. which i suppose is pretty common in cheaply built educational facilities that must have been abandoned for ages.
-Out of context props. What exactly made Infinitum Research leave their storage barrels everywhere? Or did i miss the 'IR Candidate Conditioning' logo? :)
+Good supply and dispersion of props w/mega couch action.
-Not a lot of cover. There are a few rooms that are just massively open and I'd have to say very hidden friendly.

Onikage
10th July 2009, 10:26
on the critique side:
-Overall squareness. which i suppose is pretty common in cheaply built educational facilities that must have been abandoned for ages.
I tried to break that but I just couldn't. It didn't look like facilitie when I added rounded corners. :D


-Out of context props. What exactly made Infinitum Research leave their storage barrels everywhere? Or did i miss the 'IR Candidate Conditioning' logo? :)
Those barrels are trademark for H-S I think that every map needs couple of them. Just for fun. I would love to add basketball props in the gym but I can't model that well.


+Good supply and dispersion of props w/mega couch action.
I kept physkillers in my mind. I want that map works with every playstyle. Eventhought the map might look a bit narrow there are enought place to physkill.


-Not a lot of cover. There are a few rooms that are just massively open and I'd have to say very hidden friendly.
The map a bit smaller than regural maps so marines are often closer together than usually. That makes map more difficult for hidden and that is why he needs some extra space and routes.
I am curious to see how well the map works in full public server. I haven't had more than 5 players in the map in playtesting sessions and most of them were beginners.

Thank you for you comments. Feedback is always welcome!

Dark Soul
10th July 2009, 12:17
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9176/showb.jpg















Download (http://www.filefront.com/14010111/hdn_eminence.bsp/)

Enjoy.

Paegus
10th July 2009, 14:16
crappers.. am not gonna get to test this one out until next monday :(

siervua
10th July 2009, 15:20
So we have 2 contestants =D

Onikage with Hdn_Kindergarten
Dark Soul with Hdn_Eminence

Anyone else?

This is how judging will commence. Instead of having a panel of judges, there will be a new thread made for voting in a poll like environment. The maps will be in continous play on the HiddenCow Server on July 11th. After you've played both maps we invite you to come vote for your favorite one. If you would like to leave comments please leave them in the voting thread so that the map makers may see players thoughts on their work.

The Poll will close on the evening of July 11th, and a winner will be declared. =D

Thanks to everyone who participated and who thought of participating! Look for the 2nd Wenchy's Mapping Contest in September!

toejam316
11th July 2009, 12:37
I really hope you guys don't mind, but the maps look fantastic, so I've added them to the WuTangle server's rotation.
If you want me to remove them, just send me a PM and I'll take them off.

salith
11th July 2009, 18:22
Wimps!!!!!

..... yes........

Paegus
13th July 2009, 08:17
I really hope you guys don't mind, but the maps look fantastic, so I've added them to the WuTangle server's rotation.
If you want me to remove them, just send me a PM and I'll take them off.

the problem is that it'll be too late. as soon as people start playing them they'll start to propagate which is why you ask permission FIRST!

toejam316
16th July 2009, 06:55
the problem is that it'll be too late. as soon as people start playing them they'll start to propagate which is why you ask permission FIRST!

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that map download is broken (on my server due to me being too lazy to work out why), thus for people to get the map, I have to send them to this board to download the map, and I only keep it on the map list, not the map cycle, so that only a admin or moderator can get the map running.
So no issues with undue credit, et al.
Anyway, it doesn't seem like anyone's taken issue with it, so all is well for now.

And yet again, these maps are brilliant. Have quite a blast playing Kindergarten and Eminence, and the only gripe I've had so far (and this is mostly a problem with players, not the map design), is that everyone seems to huddle up in the Gymnasium, and only people who play a bit have enough courage to explore the map a bit. Very well done guys, I wish I could map half as well as this.

-SM-SUCKER
25th August 2009, 00:00
I just played hdn_Kindergarten, was a lot of fun! Beautiful map, I like it very much! The lighting seems to be perfect imo. The whole map is very unique with many different settings in it.
The only drawback is the gym, many people tend to camp in there. But the many entrances make up for it.
Great map!

Darkhand
25th August 2009, 00:40
I just played hdn_Kindergarten, was a lot of fun! Beautiful map, I like it very much! The lighting seems to be perfect imo. The whole map is very unique with many different settings in it.
The only drawback is the gym, many people tend to camp in there. But the many entrances make up for it.
Great map!

The gym is for dodgeball! :)

Onikage
29th August 2009, 14:37
the gym is for dodgeball! :)

Let me correct: dodgebarrel/pallet/table/sofa/jimmeh. It has no balls. :D